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JavaidShackman's avatar

So random lurker #3 here. I am of the "somewhat mathematically inclined weirdo/idiot" demographic and spend abnormally large amounts of time trying to teach myself math . Basically all the mathematics I missed at school and was afraid an elderly Soviet Professor would teach me...

Mathematics education in public schools tends to be poorly motivated apart for being utilitarian and ruthless "filtering mechanism" for children that are otherwise cast aside as "future manual laborers". This seems like it is pervasive across many modern cultures.

I sometimes find myself wondering what the point of me learning mathematics is ... how do I justify to other people that what I do is worthwhile and interesting? Why is mathematics important? Is mathematics more like an art? In the "Age of AI" is math more like art and music: a set of digital artifacts that can just be generated on demand and thus lose their meaning? Is math a social and cultural activity?

Also, do the people at google actually understand what math is for? It seems like a lot of the engineering brained people at Google (and I went to school with a lot of those kids) mostly look at life as a increasingly difficult set of tests/prompts to pass. When they want to "automate mathematics to benefit humanity" how exactly what they are doing benefiting humanity? Perhaps these people have some mistaken belief -from their schooling no doubt- that "math equals intelligence"?

That I even have to ask these questions betrays my privilege and maybe "material concerns" of the average worker would increase if there was an "abundance" of math ... but we will instead get a paucity of meaning with no abundance of anything material.

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Assaf Kfoury's avatar

Michael: I read through once through the five documents. If I had more time, I would read them more carefully a second time and have more substantial suggestions. So, this is a very brief suggestion: I propose that there should be a clear distinction between two aspects/levels re: AI and mathematics. (1) The mutual impact (the impact is in both directions) between AI and the practice of mathematicians, and (2) the responsibility of mathematicians as an academic community vis-a-vis ominous implications (e.g. some are threatening to the human species) of AI's increasing penetration in the conduct of public institutions (e.g. some government's increased surveillance of citizens).

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